Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

02/01/2024 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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*+ HB 260 CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS/MEDICAL ASSISTANCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 242 EXTEND SENIOR BENEFITS PAYMENT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         HB 260-CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS/MEDICAL ASSISTANCE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  260, "An Act repealing  programs for catastrophic                                                               
illness assistance  and medical assistance for  chronic and acute                                                               
medical conditions."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:14:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILL STAPP,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented  HB  260,  explaining  that  he  believes  in                                                               
results-based budgeting and efficient  operations.  This would be                                                               
a straight  repeal of  a program  called "Catastrophic  and Acute                                                               
Medical Assistance" (CAMA),  which has a long  history in Alaska.                                                               
However,  since the  Affordable Care  Act (ACA)  was adopted  and                                                               
Alaska expanded Medicaid,  there have been no  recipients of this                                                               
assistance in  the two previous  years, and prior to  that, there                                                               
were only two  people in the program.   Approximately $150,000 is                                                               
appropriated  for the  program,  but that  doesn't represent  the                                                               
entire  cost of  administering the  program.   He consulted  with                                                               
management and eligibility technicians  at the Division of Public                                                               
Assistance (DPA)  to see  what the legislature  could do  to help                                                               
streamline the application process,  and this bill addresses that                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:18:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HONOUR  MILLER-AUSTIN, Staff,  Representative Will  Stapp, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, discussed the history  of the CAMA program and                                                               
its original  recipients.  She  presented the  sectional analysis                                                               
for HB 260  to the committee [included in  the committee packet],                                                               
which reads as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     1    AS   36.30.850(b)(11)    Deletes   reference    to                                                                    
     Catastrophic Illness Assistance from service providers                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     2  AS  47.05.085   Deletes  reference  to  Catastrophic                                                                    
     Illness  Assistance from  evidence  in connection  with                                                                    
     investigation under the administration                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     3   AS   47.05.200(d)  Deletes   Catastrophic   Illness                                                                    
     Assistance from obtaining payment from providers                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     4  AS 47.05.210(a)  Deletes  reference to  Catastrophic                                                                    
     Illness Assistance from medical assistance fraud                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     5  AS  47.05.240   Deletes  reference  to  Catastrophic                                                                    
     Illness  Assistance  commissioner  excluding  applicant                                                                    
     from medical assistance program                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     6   AS   47.05.290(9)  Deletes   Catastrophic   Illness                                                                    
     Assistance from  the definition of  "medical assistance                                                                    
     program"                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     7   AS  47.05.290(10)   Deletes  Catastrophic   Illness                                                                    
     Assistance from  the definition of  "medical assistance                                                                    
     provider"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     8   AS  47.05.290(17)   Deletes  Catastrophic   Illness                                                                    
     Assistance from  the definition of  "medical assistance                                                                    
     services"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     9   AS  47.05.330(a)   Amend   Modifies  reference   to                                                                    
     Catastrophic Illness Assistance as "former"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     10 (a)  AS 47.08.010   47.08.140  Repels all references                                                                    
     to Catastrophic Illness Assistance within statute                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     10  (b)  AS  47.08.150   Repeal  reference  to  Medical                                                                    
     Assistance  for  Chronic  or Acute  Medical  Conditions                                                                    
     within statute                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     11   Uncodified  Law   Add  new   section  Allows   the                                                                    
     Department  of  Health to  create  an  initial case  if                                                                    
     fraud is  found within  previous program  of Assistance                                                                    
     for Catastrophic  Illness and Chronic or  Acute Medical                                                                    
     Conditions                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     12   Uncodified  Law   Add  new   section  Allows   the                                                                    
     Department  of Health  to issue  subpoenas and  further                                                                    
     investigate with necessary records or evidence                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:20:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked Representative Stapp whether  he had                                                               
considered changing the program to  be state referral only in the                                                               
event the federal government radically changes health coverage.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STAPP explained he did  not believe there would be                                                               
any  major changes  in  Medicaid expansion.    The department  is                                                               
doing  Medicaid  re-determinations,  and when  recipients  aren't                                                               
eligible  for Medicaid,  they  are referred  to  the health  care                                                               
marketplace.   That type of  procedure is  already a part  of the                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA  asked about  two individuals who  were legal                                                               
immigrants and  who had received  CAMA.  She questioned  why they                                                               
had not been referred to the  ACA.  She suggested that people who                                                               
received  CAMA might  be waiting  for  the five-year  eligibility                                                               
period for people who are legal immigrants.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP   responded  that  people  who   are  legal                                                               
residents  in the  U.S. are  eligible  for ACA  coverage and  can                                                               
enroll  on healthcare.gov.   He  did not  know whether  they were                                                               
referred by Public Assistance.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:23:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB   ETHERIDGE,  Director,   Division   of  Public   Assistance,                                                               
Department  of Health,  addressed Representative  Mina's question                                                               
about the  two CAMA  recipients.   She explained  that it  is the                                                               
practice to  refer people to  the federal marketplace,  but there                                                               
may have been a gap during that time.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:24:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA  followed  up  with  a  question  about  the                                                               
definition of a catastrophic illness  and whether it is a chronic                                                               
illness or an emergency situation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. ETHERIDGE  responded that there  are specific  categories and                                                               
listed those categories.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:25:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP referred  the  committee  to the  coverages                                                               
provided  under minimum  essential coverages  under Medicaid  and                                                               
pointed out that Medicaid covers  far more than the state statute                                                               
covered under CAMA.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:25:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA  asked for clarity regarding  Sections 11 and                                                               
12 on page 5, lines 6 through 24, of HB 260.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:26:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER-AUSTIN  explained that those sections  would allow the                                                               
Department of  Health to  continue investigating  and prosecuting                                                               
cases within the CAMA application process for fraud.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:26:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA  questioned  how instances  of  fraud  would                                                               
occur in a program that has been repealed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP replied  that he  did not  think the  Joint                                                               
Legislative Budget and  Audit Committee would audit  a program no                                                               
one is on, but the provision is  in the bill to continue with the                                                               
standard  and customary  practices.   He  commented  that HB  260                                                               
would  help modernize  the processes  of the  Division of  Public                                                               
Assistance to ensure  that every Alaskan can get  their needs met                                                               
in the most efficient way possible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX announced that HB 260 was held over.                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 260 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 260 Sponsor Statement..pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 260 Version A.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 242 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 242 - AARP Supports Senior Benefits Reauthorization HB242.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 242 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 242 Version A.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 242 - Overview of the Alaska Senior Benefits Program.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 242 - 'In a Panic'_ Elimination of Senior Benefits Leaves Alaska Residents in a Tough Spot.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 260 Fiscal Note DOH-CAMA.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 260 Fiscal Note DOH-PAA.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 242 Fiscal Note DOH-SBPP.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 242
HB 260 Supporting Docs.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 260 Supporting Document #2.pdf HHSS 2/1/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 260